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My focus is on protecting the farmland parkland and recreational ground 'south of chestnut avenue', it would be a tragedy to develop this 'strategic gap' now, I thought that was a priority of yours also.
In my opinion there has been enough building in Eastleigh over the last 10 years and much of it has been on brownfield sites , the other half of the Pirelli site is about to be developed with 700 dwellings.
I don't understand why you say there is a need for more brownfield sites or a need for more homes on brownfield sites , the council and the MP no doubt agree, of the 9400 they plan before 2029 half will be on brownfield sites, my position is they are not planning for the impact of all these additional people and the quality of life for existing residents will be reduced.
They build houses to make revenue not to improve the lot of local people like they claim , as an example when they finish phase two at the old Pirelli site the pressure on existing infrastructure and amenities will increase a great deal. I needed to make an appointment at the doctors on newtown road for my daughter the other day , she had woken up with a very bad rash ;at 8am my wife and I had to press redial on the phone constantly for about 40 minutes just to get through and make an appointment.
That Eastleigh Practice is working flat out there is very little spare capacity.
Just like all the roads from the M3 to stoneham lane ,people sit in traffic for 30 minutes every day of their lives between the M27 and their work, and that's on a normal day if there is an accident somewhere then it is much longer.
Like Fleming park , the swimming pool is so over subscribed that you cannot take your kids swimming spontaneously on a sunday morning because it is all lane swimming and lessons.
Just like the schools , all the class sizes are very close to the maximum allowed , teachers are overworked ,pupils are not supervised sufficiently.
What about jobs ? Already we have record unemployment , if there was a potential for full employment in Eastleigh then it would rely on the regeneration of brownfield sites to employ people.
We have had immense numbers of new dwellings over the last 10 years , mostly for migrants into the area, and the impacts on services of these people are only just starting to be felt.
They build the houses to make money, to fill the increasing gaps in council funding and it is like a hidden tax on residents because provision of services declines.
By siding with Chris Huhne and therefore the council you are making it easier for them ,if you stand for election as a councillor wanting more housing on brownfield sites or not you might as well stand as a Lib Dem because they will just agree
In the plan they want 4700 dwellings on brownfield sites, that is the equivalent of 3 of the aviary's estates and that does not include the Pirelli development which will be underway already.
Eastleigh Borough Council has to persuade developers to take on a site , and provide some social housing, and then they get as much Section 106 money as they can.
Developers will be less keen to develop on brownfield , especially if it is on industrial parks like school lane , so the council will end up getting a much worse deal with regards to social housing and S106
The whole system of for profit development subsidising council salaries is crooked and the people of Eastleigh need to wake-up to the real motives or Eastleigh will become a completely urban landscape , with the crime, unemployment and social problems of London but without all the great things that living in a city can provide.
Perhaps your stance will appeal to the electorate but if so it will be because your naivete will match theirs, I am trying to set-up a neighbourhood forum but I have not been overwhelmed with responses , it is not the best time of year for campaigns perhaps.
If we can work together on a neighbourhood forum that would be great Parish Councils do not need neighbourhood forums because they can act as one anyway I would like to create a forum for all of eastleigh not in a parish council
My stance would be to protect all greenfield sites from development because of the value of these open spaces to future generations
do you agree with this or not - if you do believe they should be protected why campaign focusing on brownfield sites , where will the jobs be ?
I think you are playing into their hands because the stated desire to build 4700 on brownfield is very ambitious , perhaps unachievable , and more expensive considering contamination et cetera, we do not need to be planning housing for migrants into the area , we need to be planning for a sustainable future for existing residents so my stance is ONLY housing on brownfield sites and if the Pirelli site is developed with 700 flats and houses that should entirely go to the housing needy , freeing their houses up and solving whatever housing 'lack' there might be.
Perhaps we can plan a public debate on our different stances as part of a neighbourhood forum for the eastleigh local area.
What did the email say? Which candidate was it? I am sure the candidate whoever he or she is,wants to protect all greenfield sites by saying 'brownfield first'. As you know council planners told us the allocation for housing in Eastleigh is around 9,400 in total by 2029 and any plan that does not provide for that will not be considered so in order to protect greenfield from an additional 4,700 houses - the equivalent of three aviary estates - being built on greenfield sites any plan should look at redeloping the vast acres of redundant trading and industrial estate space.
ReplyDeleteSome of the vast empty buildings on th eschool lane industrial estate have been vacant for the lustrum and are falling into disrepair.
By saying these should be preserved for future employment you are siding with Keith house who says the same thing.
I have to ask what employment? Where is it coming from?
Take a look online at the falling down and abandoned factories and warehouses of Detroit.
Can jobs return there. Yes, when local wages fall to 2.5 pesos an hour (11p.
Similarly here in Eastleigh our manufacturing sector has shrunk to 6% of local gdp.
Pirelli, Caustons, Alstom, Prices, Warner Hudnut have gone and the supporting business to serve their needs and the needs of high waged low skilled work force has gone too abandining the trading estates they occupied.
The factorys have been built over with housing their support industry premises are being preserved in case they come back again!
They will return when the average local wage falls to 1.5 ringitts an hour (about 25p).
What stops wages falling to this level?
Well one reason is the high cost of housing.
Why is the cost of housing so high?
I am sure there are those who will tell you its scarcity - we need to build more houses - you see where you argument leads to!
No- the high cost of housing is entirely due to cheap credit flooding the market ,investment capital, and folks who signed over many more years of their lives to get a fancy pad or move near a better job.
ReplyDeleteIf you allow them to build housing on all the industrial sites then the greenfield sites will just get the new wharehouses or office blocks, try coping with the arguement - this wharehouse will create jobs. Keith 'bob the builder' House wants future jobs but we need jobs now... now dammit !
We can house all the 'needy' by other methods ( more later)
In the 17th century a loaf of bread was half a days work - it is food that is linked to wages, we have cheap food - because a lot of people eat industrially processed rubbish , subsidies to farms via high taxes but mostly people in the developing world having no health care, or pensions or holidays or laptops etc.
Manufacturing jobs will return when the government wants them to , every PM since Thatcher has basically been thatcher, selling off our assets and relying on the arms trade and the city's funny money to engorge the elite, with a little trickling down to the poor thus destroying the middle class (almost). -but those days are over rover , all the assets are gone and the new global powers have seen the ponzi for what it is !
We could be making Ipads in school lane , or androids or proper robots by the time it happens - it's that , or extinction , some chinese tourists will visit stonehenge perhaps, so it's either learn mandarin or take our democracy back.
If I had a million quid I could make at least 5% p/a in the property market, between 1990 and 2007 15% easy. Why would I invest in a startup technology company on an Eastleigh industrial estate - too risky . Brazillian bonds make 8% , so do Greek bonds.... oh wait a sec ....
Only national governments can promote productive capital over speculative capital and they have not done it - the elites with governments help have made themselves rich(er) and kicked normal people to the curb.
People are catching up with the fraud and the treason, those Detroit auto plants need to be retooled to make nuclear power plants or tidal or High speed rail or America starves. Eastleigh Council needs to stop investing in property speculation and start investing in Small / Medium enterprises as a bank (ie looking for modest returns) , they need to plan for their populace not cash in their assets.
Thanks for the comment , it's late I'm going to bed - national issues are all important in local issues - it's just a little complicated.
What jobs? What Industries? Can either you or Keith or Rigel tell me what these are?
ReplyDeleteWe are over capacity on empty Industrial units at the moment.
Why on earth would anyone want to build Ipads or androids in the UK? Who is going to buy an Ipad with a £2,000 price tag?
An Ipad is £400 , so you are saying if made here they would be 5 times more expensive , OK - what would happen between the renminbi and the pound if all the economic truths were counted into the exchange rate? - the £ would probably devalue by a factor of 5 -the question is how are we going to avoid Ipads becoming 5x more expensive when Russia Brazil India Australia Canada etc are enough of a market for the far east to export to? we can't so they are already £2000 , the other £1600 is just created by the government as additional debt.
ReplyDeleteMaking Ipads is not a low skilled labour intensive industry it is capital intensive (there are only a few plants in the world that can make the wafers and screens all built with government money) Intel is in Ireland and eastern europe. Most of the android software design is done in California.
Paying £2000 for them is not ridiculous , it would take some serious import tariffs but none of that £2000 would escape the UK economy, the government would have to make the capital investment with credit rather than debt money.
There is no relation between me and the liberal democrat administration , the lib dems are still feeding the zombie banks and hoping a recovery will somehow occur, I want an FDR style new deal- aiming at full employment modern jobs with high wages. Do you think the people of Eastleigh aren't good enough or don't deserve that ?
What other future is there for us Stephen ?